J. Darcy and I Transcripts 2011
Phone Call 3 May 2011
2011 J. Darcy’s Man got the story from Nick Stafford that he killed a man on a Bike going through a junction in front of his cattle lorry story. John Darcy thought it was three two or something like that, meaning 3.2 million euro he thought the land for, which was partly the wife’s. I asked J. Darcy was Nick Stafford’s wife alive at the time of the deal and I asked him what year it was he said it was definitely 2004 or 2005. When I asked him had he though Nick Safford’s wife was alive at the time, probably because she had been part owner.
Actual Text: of call: John Darcy speaking after I asked him what the price would have been: “I thought it was 3 2 three two or something like that, then I Austin speaks: three two maybe, and was it in his wife’s name that time, or had he trouble getting it from his wife’s to his. John Darcy replies: Ah he had no trouble, it was just the I said or the tax just. then John speaks: the tax thing I suppose, but sure I suppose just like anything she probably had to sign off on it. I Austin then asked was she alive that time? John Replies: Oh, God she was alive that time, and then I ask him would it have been in her name that time? John replies: I can’t actually remember, now there was something about it anyway She certainly had a big hold on it anyway, like I Wasn’t really that interested at the time, you know what I mean. yeah, I Reply. John says, “it wasn’t really part of my concern.” I Austin then speaks: but it was around 2004 or five. John Replies: “Yeah, it was definitely 2004 or 2005”. Austin then speaks: “Did you get a chance to check anymore about the man that was killed on the bike?”
John replies: Yeah, that’s all I heard, all I got back was the same thing, it was, he came across out of a by road or something straight across the road in front of him, he had no brakes on his bike or something like that. I Austin speaks: It was another fellow I was speaking to, now, this was back in 2008, (I made a mistake here this should be 2009) had a story it was a man and a woman in a car that had come out in front of him, but you think it was more likely a man on a bike. John replies: It was definitely a man on a bike from what I was told anyway, then John says: about a statement saying that, I will take it the rest of the way I speak: if you got him meaning John Nolan to state what Nick Stafford told him about rigging the Auction, he John Darcy would take it the rest of the way through his solicitor. His concern was that he thought it would be unlikely that John Nolan would say anything against Stafford if he was truckin’ and dealin’ with him.
John Darcy and me transcript 14th October 2011 9:17a.m.
Austin: “So you were at her funeral when she died, she was alive that time when you were doing the deal that time in 2005. John Darcy reply’s “She was yeah, Austin speaks: “Gee Just to show how we can make mistakes, I have a piece of paper from the, I think it is from the Wexford People, about her death in 2002. John speaks again: and in a genuine way: “well now maybe she was, I was definitely at the funeral, because I can remember to this day been at it, and I remember Nick and we were standing to one side, I had no involvement with her, I didn’t know her and I do remember Nick crying, and one of the boys, you know, Bradshaw saying: “Fu*k!, imagine that f*cker crying” and we were both quite amused at this man Bradshaw’s comment, and John said then : “You know yourself, Austin if you are not involved in a funeral, you don’t really have any emotion for it.” I then speak and tell him that he had no problem telling a mother of six children to shoot ourselves and then she was saying what about the young children, and he said “Fu*k them out to grass or something like that. John then replies: “Make no mistake about it, he would be the very same with his own kids like, he would talk about some of them as if they weren’t his, he would disown them, they are fuck’in useless, and he’d say that to a stranger, he is a fuckin Dope, most people would have enough cop-on not to say that.” I then speak and check again with John, and I speak: “Just the important bit, the man you were talking to, has got that story off Nick, Nick Stafford, that it was a man coming through a Crossroads on a bike.” But John was quick to emphasize that it was years ago that this man got this story or account from Nick Stafford, this was the same man we were referring to during our phone conversation 3rd May 2011 that it was definitely a man on a bike came straight across the road in front of him that was killed in front of his cattle lorry.
Darcy’s man Bradshaw was right, a woman I know told me, she was at a dance with her friend from Greystones, and when her friend sat down after a dance with Stafford, she mentioned he had asked her out, and when she told him she was married, he replied there need be no strings attached, and after she was filled in, about Stafford and his wife, she got up for the next dance with him, and he tried his luck again, she told him that she wouldn’t leaver her husband at home, as she knew he would never take his wife out. I knew Darcy had seen him out quit a lot, but never with his wife, as he didn’t know her, and he remarked quite accurately that he went around to the dances as if he were “God’s gift to women.
Stafford use to leave the late Michael Bolger outside in the cattle lorry for hours while he was inside the Bridge Bar in Gorey chatting up the owner the late Monica Keating who died early 2006, Stafford told Michael that he got off very light in a fatal collision in Limerick where he killed a man with his cattle lorry. Michael used to work in the cattle marts as well as having a farm in Poulepeasty, Clonroche probably only about five miles from Quinn’s old mart in Adamstown, Co. Wexford Clonroche and even after he retired, he still enjoyed working or helping out in the Carnew mart, I understand he also had an interest in horses and kept some. Michael died in 2010 after a short illness but had passed on this information many years before this. Monica was well liked, and I believe could be quite outspoken,
Stafford tells different people that he has killed a male person in front of his cattle lorry who was going through a junction or crossroads, and that he got off light with a male person he killed with his cattle lorry in Limerick. It is very unlikely it would have ever been possible to prove who the person was going through a junction or crossroads that he killed in front of his cattle lorry in Limerick, if he hadn’t given Mr John Nolan some vital information regarding the name of the purchaser of the 15 acres of his own land that he sold at public auction in the Porter house pub, where he claimed that he knowingly took fictitious bids to get the price up and that the purchaser originally came from Oylegate, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, and the fact that he said the purchaser owned a yacht, along with some other information that helped corroborate that this conversation took place between he and John Nolan, He also gave one other clue to John that day in March 2010 to help zone in on the year that he claimed the male person was killed in front of his cattle lorry, and also a clue that the person was young.
the young school girl standing outside of her own drive way holding her younger sister’s hand whilst waving to the other children on the school bus on the offside was always the victim , and not the man who killed her who described how he had seen her body come down the windscreen, and while we know he was on his own side or he would have crashed into the bus, we know her body ended up in the dyke after the momentum of his car eventually came to a halt, and it was the late Dr Sutton who pronounced her dead, and contrary to what Mr. Stafford said about her mother of this young school girl shaking his hand, she stated clearly she most certainly did not shake hands with Stafford and felt he should have been able to make some effort to stop and avoid killing her daughter, she had just come back from the dentist with her son. He drove almost ninety miles to a dancehall called “Showboat in Youghal at the time, very shortly after about five or six miles from where he killed her, so it certainly didn’t affect him . The mother of this young girl did say that it had come back to her that some of the Guards had been keeping an eye on him as he had never been tested for drink. (This would have been around the same time period that he was trying to buy a Brucellosis infected cow from the late Mr. Ned Condren who was from Ballycoog, Co. Wicklow. But Ned refused to sell it to him.) A farmer about three miles away from us told me he bought three in-calf cows during 1974 and all three aborted the following week. His wife also verified this. It was very obvious these three cows had recently been in contact with a brucellosis infected animal or material from a cow that had aborted. I noticed Stafford also had an advert in the paper in 1974 for 40 Friesen springers Brucellosis free through Kinsella Estates for sale.
Here is a good Article in 1964 Clare Champion19.12.1964, page 14: Brucellosis is the disease known generally as contagious abortion. Often when a cow calves before “her time” it is attributed to injury or accident, but very few births are due to such causes. In the majority of such cases, the cause is a germ, and all abortions should be assumed as being caused by these germs, until the contrary is proved. These germs swarm in the discharges of the cow time of the aborts. They also swarm in the membranes surrounding the calf, and in the body of the calf. A cow that aborts can become a “carrier” of these germs and her discharges can contaminate the grass and drinking water, and as a result pregnant cows can, by eating this grass or drinking much water, take in these germs, and in due course, abort. When a cow aborts, the farmer should get in the veterinary surgeon as soon as possible so that the required precautions will be taken to prevent the disease spreading two other cows in the herd. The aborted calf and membranes should be buried deep or burned immediately when the veterinary surgeon arrives, he will do what is necessary to prevent the spread of the disease, give the instructions necessary to be carried out.
Many people do not realise that they can get ill when dealing with cows that have aborted, if they do not observe the necessary precautions, or that they can get ill from drinking raw milk of a cow that has aborted. This disease is endemic in the Mediterranean area, is known as Malta fever, Mediterranean fever, Abortus fever or brucellosis, they are all the same disease. The disease first became known to the British when their troops in Malta started to go down with it. Took them quite a while to trace the cause, they ultimately found it was due to drinking raw goat’s milk. This disease may be mild or severe. At its mildest it may only be a rise in temperature and the individual may be able to do his normal work. More serious cases may suffer with sweating, severe debility, anaemia, joint pains and enlargement of the spleen and liver. Occasionally a case can turn up which closely resembles Malaria. The ordinary case of this disease lasts for about three months and can persist as long as two years. The disease brucellosis can be practically wiped out if dairy farmers get their veterinary surgeons to inoculate their heifer calves between the ages of four and eight months. Will give them considerable protection against abortion up to and including the 4th pregnancy. The cost of doing this is very little compared with the gain to the farmer. In Sweden, the disease is practically now unknown. I had known one or two men with the disease, one man who lived in our local village told me you could often have bouts of flu like symptoms and maybe notice it in bed sweating at night a little like from a flu, his experience of it was that he never finally got clear of it.
During 2006 when Mr Stafford was threatening my wife, he told her that he was worth twenty-million, and they would clean us out along with plenty of other abuse and threats and that if she were a little girl, he would pick her up and shake her and that no fu**ing judge would listen to her, while none of us were aware he killed a little girl many years before this, we now know he was making it very clear that he didn’t think much of killing a little girl.
Dermot Sherlocks Letter dated 18th September 2007, and one can see while Dermot has made some mistakes, as the reason I went to him in July 2006 was to check if the Contract was valid if brought about under false pretences Re advert in September 2004, but one can see clearly his attitude towards young children and his lack of regard for them in D Sherlocks letter Sept 2007 quoting Caroline. I think there may never have been any issue or a serious problem if Mr. N. Stafford had said nothing to anyone about killing a person in front of his cattle lorry going through a junction.
it was stated also during a subsequent letter or earlier the complaint Re “Threatening and demanding money with Menaces,” had been reported to the writer of the letter long before September 2007.
Harassment and “Threatening and Demanding money with Menaces” began from December 2005 after the Deal was done. It was really really relentless from February 2006, and as My wife Caroline described it in August 2007 as being under a “Reign of Terror,” for nearly two years.
We took the family on holidays to France in July2007 combining some work with it. I had been working some really long hours after coming back catching up on my farm work. The threatening and harassment still continued, and I did not want him around and told him that it could be dealt with through solicitors.
We hadn’t been aware he had killed a young schoolgirl outside her own driveway whilst holding her younger sister’s hand waving to the other children on the bus which was on the offside after they had come back from music lessons in Youghal, when Stafford was threatening my wife Caroline that if she were a little girl, he would pick her up and shaker her albeit 33 years later. Caroline had stated in August 2007 we had been under a reign of terror for almost two years. She stated in August 2007 that I knew she felt threatened and her levels of confidence and ability to live each day happily wasn’t possible, she stated she felt petrified and insecure and not able to cope in the same capable manner as before.
David Tarrant had said before the10th July 2013 that he could go around saying he was raping women every week and that was Okay, probably as a result of N Stafford telling different people about a young girl he had killed, and people he had killed in front of his cattle lorry, I was so astonished at this, that I asked to bring in a witness for the next meeting Wednesday 10-July 2013 , and this time, David told us that he could go around saying he was the one on the motorbike or moped that caused Lady Diana’s death. This created a problem, since due to the “Fit and Proper Person “rule requirement for an Auctioneer’s licence or Certificate or a solicitor’s practitioner’s Certificate, and it became worse after 2014, and 2015. Sometimes things can get complicated, especially after becoming aware of Nick Stafford’s rate of Commission of 1% in 2002 and how he had deceived and defrauded Mr. John Joe Mc Carthy, who was a very decent likable and honest man after he sold his farm October 2002 using the Warren Estates brochure.
The Warren Estates advert in February 2002 for Auction 20-March-2002. N Stafford’s Advert for the auction of Mr. P. Buttle’s property with Mr. Kevin O’Doherty acting for him appears in the paper 10 July 2002, but doesn’t sell at auction 2nd August
One day during 2013 in Aughrim, Wicklow, after coming back and from some land I had rented about 7 or 8 miles from there, I happened to meet a man that I knew well. This man farmed near Aughrim and was a good sheep farmer. He used to be a very skilled operator on a bulldozer and would have worked for my father during the 1960s and seventies. I found him very enjoyable to have a chat with , and he shared an amusing account of a few different experiences he had when working on the construction of the hydroelectric scheme on Turlough Hill around 1970 to 1972, and after he brought it to my attention that Mr. John Joe Mc Carthy had done a deal with Stafford on commission to sell his farm ten years ago approximately for €6,000, around ten years ago in 2002 and then billed him for nearly €18,000 or 2003. I had got in touch with John Joe in 2014, who verified this and we had many interesting conversations since that time, before this I would have only ever known him to say hello to, and after this I got to know him really well, and we had always known his wife Betty’s brother Murth really well who used to live only a little over a mile over the road from us. John had believed because he had not got it in writing from him that he had no way of proving it.
Betty told me in December 2015 that Stafford had been threatening them with Court and quoted another case where an auctioneer had won a large amount in a Case, and I then asked her did Stafford quote the “Pat Doyle Case” that he won, and she said he never mentioned it and she wasn’t aware of it. He used to enjoy boasting about it to my cousin John Nolan. Betty told me he used the Warren Estates brochure to sell it. She told me when the purchaser was suing them, she thought of something to counter-sue him , which their solicitor hadn’t thought of, and the purchaser backed off after that. They were not aware at the time that Stafford had stated to Mr Peter Buttle that his rate of commission in 2002 was 1%, and that Peter had to get his solicitor to write to him some years later after he tried to deceive Peter also.
Their solicitor had already come across a case previously, around 1992 or shortly after where a man and his wife, that I knew were selling their house and after having it fully repainted as they were planning to move abroad had approached an auctioneer in Bray after seeing an advert in the paper from the auctioneer, he called down around half 5.30 pm one evening and asked them to sign a couple of documents with a blank page or part of a page that was blank giving him the authority to sell it for them the husband had noticed a blank section , but thought it might be in bad taste to draw lines through the blank area and left it but after a while they noticed when he was sending down some potential customers to buy the house he seemed to be making very little effort with some poor offers to sell the house. eventually they managed to sell the house themselves, after it appeared to be going nowhere and they withdrew from him, but one day their solicitor called him in to the office and told him that the auctioneer had put in a claim for his Commission on realising this the husband said how much is it going to cost to pay him off so eventually they agreed on an amount with the auctioneer in question in settlement, even thought he had not sold it. The phrase the auctioneer and his solicitor had used was “irrevocable” and had inserted the clause into the blank space or area. After agreeing then having paid him paid him off as they thought, but after some time went by I am not sure how much possibly a month or so or a couple of months, when suddenly he got another call from his solicitor again and asked him would he call into his office again which he did after his solicitor had explained to him what had happened, that the auctioneer and his solicitor had come back again for fees commission. This time he advised his client to wait in his office and that he would phone the auctioneer’s solicitor with him present. This he did and Cathal phoned the auctioneer’s solicitor and said to the auctioneer’s solicitor and informed him that he had his client present with him in his office and that he was putting the phone on speaker phone or loud speaker that they could all hear the conversation that he would put the phone on loudspeaker that they could all share in the conversation and he was used some fairly strong stern language to explain to him that he would report him to the Law Society for what he did, he may have only threatened to do it it, he probably should have been taken to court over it but it was almost unbelievable after being paid off that he had such a brass neck to come back and try this again. I may not have the exact detail correct, but I am quite sure this is broadly correct. About seven or eight years ago the same solicitor was convicted for some dishonesty, but the auctioneer to the best of my knowledge was never held to account.
Fact can be stranger than fiction , as their daughter was married to now retired Detective sergeant Fergus O’Brien at the time. A man who knows Fergus had told me this, and John Joe even brought it up later when chatting about my brother and so many things we had in common to chat about. We had one really amusing and enjoyable conversation after I mentioned to him the way the “Wexford People” paper was courting him after the release of his new book, which I thought was a bit like what a thirteen- or fifteen-year-old would write, and that it was a guide for young people to stay from the high stool for success. John Joe immediately replied and said : “ Did he ever stay off the high stool in the pub in Kilmuckridge”. He told me he thought he knew him from the time Stafford used to have a few cows for sale in the old Gorey Mart, when he bought a couple off him, but soon realised after 2002 that he did not know him.
Mr. Andrew Tarrant, who had previously assaulted a woman after trespassing onto her property, stated to a third party in 2022 that he agreed with it too, that a man going around saying he was raping women every week was okay, this was extraordinary considering a beautiful young woman who was a mother was viciously assaulted and murdered across the street from his office in 2019.
13 -Sept 2011. I rang and left a message for my solicitor that was acting for me in 2006 and 2007 at 9:00 am that morning. An experienced man in livestock and a good judge of cattle or Suckler cows and I went to look at some in-calf Limousin cross heifers that a farmer near Enniscorthy on the Blackwater Road had for sale. When we arrived, he the farmer just remarked on a big fire in his neighbour’s place across a few fields from him. On the previous weekend and he told us there were two fire brigades attending to the fire, as there was a large quantity of big square bales of straw, which would have been stacked tight together like “Weetabix” in a rick or shed, and he mentioned the two fire brigades were there for 20 hours costing €750.00 per hour each and the bill came to €30,000. This farmer remarked that his insurance cover only allowed him €5,000 fire brigade cover which was quite typical at the time and he was going to get it increased. He then mentioned to me that the farmer was Paddy Kehoe, Chief Superintendent, Catherine Kehoe’s husband. On the way back my solicitor rang me back on a different matter me regarding a significant amount of money that I had paid him for negotiating partly with myself the extra money for the sale of the Farm Entitlements, of which I had to buy replacement ones. My solicitor confirmed that this was the case.
During November and December 2011 I had mentioned to David Tarrant an obvious flaw, that was stated by a trained Garda, which he appeared to have made by assumption, without checking out something obvious that a fourteen-year-old could have probably spotted, but after thinking about it again over the years, I think it may be safer to say a reasonably bright sixteen-year-old plus, could have spotted the obvious flaw
During late October2015 I became aware after chatting to some friends, that Mrs. Catherine Kehoe came from a farm at Ballybeg near Ferns on the Carnew road. A man who used to work with my father told me Stafford had a farm rented out on the Carnew road out of Ferns, while his own herd and herd number was locked up with Brucellosis at Castlebridge, and he was using the herd number on this farm. During October 2008 a man and his wife we both knew well from the Tullow area, Co. Carlow when visiting us one evening mentioned to us that Stafford was widely suspected in the Tullow area of trying to spread BSE. (This was by
coincidence the same evening the two horses were taken)
I am more inclined to think or suspect that he may have been looking for an opportunity to claim compensation from an infected herd. It was easy to see why both of the auctioneer’s institutes refused to have anything to do with him. It was really extraordinary that Mrs. Catherine Kehoe who was Garda Superintendent from 2005 was allowing Mr. N Stafford apply for an Auctioneer’s Certificate or licence every July using it to benefit and profit from white collar crime, apart from “Threatening and Demanding money with Menaces”.
A woman noticed during a conversation with N. Stafford in early December 2008, that he was being very tough when he was boasting that he would spend between five and six thousand Euros on suits for himself in Louis Copelands every year, so she alluded to him that my memory may not be too bad. Around October November 2008 I was selling a nicely finished continental heifer to a man for a supermarket, with a clear specification for quality and grade 3 fat score, and while we were chatting, he mentioned to me that Nick Stafford was known as “Squeaky Nick”. This was the first time I had heard of this one. I soon began to realise that he went by this, and was known by this name amongst most of his peers especially in the cattle or cow trade, after chatting with other people who knew him, and after an auctioneer in Wexford referred to him as “Squeaky Nick”, it was obvious.
Caroline had written a hand written letter in October 2008 to Mr David Tarrant about an extraordinary event that happened on Sunday 19th October 2008 when the late Fay McCann and his wife visited us and we had a really interesting and enjoyable day with them and they noticed some of our children’s drawings called technical graphics nowadays and would have been referred to as mechanical drawing in the early 1970s. they told us after we told them Mr Peter Legge was the architect who designed the house they told us that they were both architects , and used to work for Peter and his brother, and the joke used to be if one of them was out of the office; which leg is out” . Fay had done an extraordinary amount of work also on linking up family history as he was related to the former Mike Fanning. While we were chatting a man and woman arrived and enquired if we had seen two missing horses, one of which was a piebald-coloured colt, which had not yet been weaned, and we had not noticed anything like that, but we knew there were horses next door in Bridie’s. An extraordinary thing happened along with that was over the next couple of days, she was able to tell us that Christy had organised the stable with Bridie for her. When she enquired from Christy where her horses were he told her they could in the wood and when she enquired more, he threatened her with Sgt Murt Fitzgerald. He had been telling her previously that he was best friends with him and was friendly with a bhan Garda policewoman also. While some of this may not have been taken seriously under normal circumstances, but due to the fact that Christy, from Ballyday had been mouthing some very sensitive information about the Stafford case in very early October 2008, which nobody could have known about, and while it may not have been 100% accurate he had been very close to it , and appeared to be credible due to Murt’s actions, David Tarrant had represented Christy in another case also involving a collision with a a motorcyclist. An even more extraordinary chain of events involving Christy happened after this.
Caroline thought or had believed the man that came up with the late Mr Nick Stafford in late September/ early October 2004 in relation to my farm which was in a part of County Wexford regarding his farm wanted Advert for his client, which Caroline had spotted in our local paper, 1st September 2004 During 2008 and 2009, I had begun going over things slowly. I had met the late Mr Ned Purcell for the first time Monday evening 7, December-2009 at 7:30pm approximately, in the Golden Anchor Pub in Castletown after I had got a contact number for him. I was told he didn’t drink, but that he enjoyed going there in the evenings for a chat. He told me also that he didn’t drink or smoke, and as it happened, I was practically drinking no alcohol since 2008. Ned had quite a relaxed personality to chat with and he mentioned that he knew my brother Dermot well from the time he used to go with a girl called Sandra, from Dublin, who used to come down to the caravan park with her family. He had suddenly jogged a few gearwheels in my memory, and I remembered they were a very nice family from the time I was introduced to them. We chatted for a while, after that about Mulcahy and Stafford. He told me how his caravan park was next to Mulcahy’s houses on the beach. One of the first questions I asked him was, had R. Mulcahy any children, and he told me he had none. After chatting some more, I asked him would he mind meeting my wife, Caroline. He replied as it happens Mulcahy’s wife is also called Caroline, and that they were kind of separated, and he told me he would have no problem meeting my wife, which we arranged for an evening around the same time and place about a week later or less. There was a nice fire on in the Golden Anchor pub that evening. After a quick introduction we began chatting about different things and after a short while Caroline mentioned the day, as she thought he was up in our home, when Ned suddenly replied very clearly that he had never met her before in his life. We realised at that point he was correct, and we could see immediately he bore no resemblance whatsoever to the man that came up to our home with Stafford that Saturday. I could see what had actually happened, was that Nick Stafford was talking all about Ned Purcell, and Ned had told me in a subsequent conversation that he and Richard Mulcahy and Stafford drove around the farm. I soon began to realize that Stafford was talking so much about Ned Purcell that Saturday he came up to our home, that he had come up from Richard Mulcahy his client beside Ned Purcell in clone, Castletown, Co. Wexford. It was the fact that he was talking so much about Ned Purcell, that led her to believe mistakenly four or five years later that the man with him was Ned. This reminded me of an incident:
One evening during 1985 between April and September because it was a bright fine evening probably well after 7:00pm Caroline and I were travelling in my Glacier -blue Ford Escort Laser car registration AZS 697 that I had bought just shortly before I met Caroline in 1984, probably only a week or two before I met her. We were going over to the Valley hotel and just as we had slowed down passing the rear entrance of the Woodenbridge hotel and about to pass the entrance to the Woodenbridge golf club when I received a belt in the driver’s door from a Saab car, I was really puzzled at first as to how it could have happened and noticed a big sloppy dent in my driver’s door from where the front left hand side of the Saab bumper had struck it, nobody was hurt as there was very little speed involved. The driver got out of the Saab and asked me did I not see his indicator and I replied I didn’t, we chatted for a few minutes and the men from the car told us they were just going down to the golf club for a drink. Caroline went across to the Woodenbridge hotel to ring the guards, and while she was over there I was talking to the driver and it came back to me and I remembered what happened. I said to the driver : I know now what happened, I did see your indicator. The man who was in the passenger seat said almost immediately: “a minute ago you said you didn’t see it and now you are saying you did see it. There was a very good reason why I remembered it and that was because I had a tractor with a similar problem with the rear lights when one of the rear light bracket wasn’t bolted tightly to the tractor frame. I asked the driver would he mind getting back into his car and putting on his right hand indicator again, the driver obliged and did this and the right hand indicator worked properly when we looked at it from the rear and the men were quite pleased, I then asked the driver would he mind getting into the car once more and this time would he put his foot on the brakes when he put on the right hand indicator, and as soon as he did this all the rear lights flashed including both indicator lights about half their normal brightness just as it happened the tractor about a year earlier. I had seen his indicators flashing and assumed because he had pulled over to the other side of the road a little to the right that he was turning right into the back entrance into the hotel, and one could then see easily then how it happened although myself and my late father Dick paid for the repairs for the damage done to my car. I can remember this part very well almost as if it were only months ago even though I would have no hope of remembering what Mr Barry Hickson a barrister at that time looked like then, although Caroline would be more inclined to remember that part and she remembers the evening very well. It was only about a week afterwards that we realized that the man in the front passenger seat was Mr Barry Hickson who became Judge Hickson around 2012. The driver was Mr Pat Corcoran an accountant and the man in the backseat was the late John Louth who was the coroner at the time, Mr Richie Galvin was the Garda from the Rathdrum station who arrived out at the scene later, my late father and I paid for the repairs for the damage done to my door. Judge Hickson spoke well of my late father in an unusual incident where myself and another solicitor and Barrister were caught out totally by surprise, and we had to act very quickly.
The French Exchange student staying with us in April 2009, went home Friday 10th April 2009, and Caroline and I went to the Enniscorthy cattle mart the following Tuesday morning and we met quite a few people we knew. During the sale a good friend of mine Mr. Merrigan from Avoca who knew both of us well and we hadn’t seen for quite a good many years came over to us and we were chatting for quite a while and he mentioned he had Limousin cross heifers in-calf for sale. He mentioned something about the Kilkenny cattle sale, and something about Nick Stafford wanting to shake hands with me. A few days or a week later I called up to view the heifers, which suited , and while we were looking at them, I asked him was it the day in the Kilkenny cattle sale that Stafford mentioned that he wanted to shake hands with me, and he replied no, it was that day in the Enniscorthy cattle sale, it was Nick Stafford who said would love to go over and shake hands with that man over there and Thomas replied who do you mean, and Nick Stafford replied that man Austin Fanning siting down over there with his wife Caroline, Mr. Merrigan then said to him , why don’t you go over now and shake hands with him, Stafford replied, I would only for the guards won’t let me. Thomas said he hadn’t noticed we were there at the sale, before this. ( knew he had a very genuine reason for wanting to shake hands with me).
Stafford complained to John Nolan on the Roscrea trip around 2011 that his sister Tolleen wouldn’t pay for her half of the cost of getting his mammy’s headstone polished, which seemed a bit much after boasting he was worth 20 million and walking in for Christmas dinner every year with his two hands swinging empty.
Mr. Ryan Byrne his nephew with Jonathan had driven up past our home over 15 years ago and were trying to get a good look in. I was surprised when David Tarrant’s man stated that I told him that I had seen Ryan driving by, after David Tarrant had represented him for dangerous driving in 2006 after coming out of “Jumpin Jacks” night club very energised, bringing police on a 21-mile-high speed car chase at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour on narrow country roads switching off the lights going through cross roads, etc. Garda Hayes surmised, was so he could guess whether or not there was oncoming traffic. Some of what was described was rather like Matt Damon as Jason Bourne in the Paris police car chase in the 2002 Bourne Identity, film/ movie. Ryan had been involved in another police car chase a couple of years before this where he had swapped seats with the driver, and Tarrant and Tarrant had represented him in this case also. I knew Ryan well but I hadn’t been aware of this until well after 2012. I knew him well and found him pleasant. I was surprised at Tarrant’s putting this in after he had been banned from driving for quite a number of years in 2006.It was obvious knew this man knew he had stated a few things falsely after he deliberately left out what I had told him about what Caroline had stated about us being under a “Reign of Terror” for nearly two years
Around 2012 roughly or 2013 I noticed this Music shop, after noticing it adjoined a house No.12, I would never have imagined that this was the Music shop that I was talking to my solicitor about in 2006 when we were negotiating through Mulcahy’s Legal team, and Safford had told me was buying a music shop for Mulcahy apart from some terraced houses or street houses as they are sometimes called, that he had acquired for him and he told me Mulcahy he had already done some of them up and sold them on. Mulcahy was trying to force me to go back through Stafford, but I refused to and kept negotiating with my solicitor through his Legal Reps. My perception of the “Music shop” was something very different
another Music record shop, Wexford, photo taken in 2014
Sometimes fact can be stranger than fiction,
I was reading a piece in the Wicklow People newspaper about the case over suspended Garda Smith from an incident on a warm night in June 2017, Assault causing harm was the contention of the prosecution after the man was brought to Wexford General Hospital and found to be suffering from a collapsed lung here a man by the name of Kenny who probably was being a bit silly perhaps, sitting down scuttered on the ground, under pressure after being in the pub earlier, after drinking six or seven pints and a concerned member of the public called into the station and reported it, Garda Jacinta Gordon there described Kenny as pleasant enough, Garda Smith had overreacted in manhandling Kenny during an arrest in the Gorey station ,where Kenny actually ended up with a collapsed lung which was discovered in Wexford General Hospital afterwards. Detective Garda Catherine Keogh gave evidence of Kenny’s treatment in court. I knew Catherine Keogh who was from Aughrim too, and I had reported some of my property that had been taken without my consent, and on another occasion, under different circumstances we had an interesting conversation regarding the amount of children we each had and the cost of family holidays, among other things. I have had about five or six phones taken since 2012 apart from fire resistant document Safes, one taken in 2014 and the other taken in 2015. One phone in particular, a SONY XPERIA was taken on a beautiful Sunday morning 13th August 2017. I remember this one very well for three reasons, one was that I had to walk into Gorey to report it.
A photo of my front bike tyre taken in Conroy’s Gorey Cycle shop 6-Feb-2018, after I was informed it had been slashed in our home, and I had to get a new tyre for it, I reported it to Garda Cashman
On the 27-February 2018 I had another cheaper phone taken, I had got so used to trying to locate my phones using the Android system, and I had seen this phone’s location going through Kilanerin, after trying one other test first from my computer to check for it, and then location. I got a lift into Gorey Garda (police) station sometime later and reported it to Garda Smith, who tried ringing it also, but it just went to voicemail at that stage. I had another older damaged NOKIA 3 Phone with a screen which had been damaged on the 11-January-2018 after getting caught or pinched slightly in the tailgate of my pickup truck when taking my bike out in the dark whilst visiting a man, I knew, and discovered my phone the next morning, after I went over to my pickup, where the man who gave me, a lift parked it. There were a lot of vertical lines going up through the screen with different colours, and people tell me the phones with this kind of damage normally don’t work for long, so I went into the phone shop, and the lad there was of the same view, and so I bought another NOKIA 3 for about 100 Euros Huawei Y6 Phone of similar spec and price for about 100 Euros on the 26th February2018, this one was taken , when my attention was distracted and after I got a lift into the Garda station, and reported it , GARDA Smith rang it for me , and it went to voicemail, and I knew then it had been switched off or something similar. When I got back home and possibly a day later, I got a new sim card and put it into the NOKIA-3 phone with the damaged screen, and I noticed a missed call message15:12 on 27/02/2018 from the Gorey GARDA Station, this would have been the time he rang it after I reported it to him.
During an interesting discussion with Darcy regarding drink driving attitudes etc. During the 1960s and 1970s, there was a reasonably casual attitude, he mentioned there was a case years ago in Oylegate where a doctor knocked down and killed two or three people in Oylegate, Enniscorthy, and got off with a fine of only £10. I decided recently to look it up, and I could see he had a really good memory, but I noticed the doctor also had some very good defence witnesses in the court case Trial that followed and ran for about a week from 27-February-1962 to the 6th March1962.
The Irish Independent 28-Feb.1962
Seven witnesses gave evidence yesterday when the Trial was continued, in the Central Criminal Court of Dr. Patrick John Daly (58), Bree House, Enniscorthy, who is charged with the manslaughter of James Kinsella (72), fisherman, and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of Oylegate, Enniscorthy on April 24 last. He is also charged with driving a car while drunk and with dangerous driving.
The hearing was adjourned until today.
Michael Walsh, Oylegate stated that he saw Joseph Cullen cycling near the scene of the accident. He had a bright front light. A car passed travelling at between 50 and 60 miles an hour. It came around a corner on its correct side and as it approached witness it veered to its right.
Walking home Matthew Kelly, Oylegate, said he met Kinsella in a public house at Oylegate. “They had a few drinks and left to go home about 11.15 pm He walked on the grass margin and Kinsella walked close to his right-hand side. Two men passed on bicycles. A few minutes later a car approached from behind. Witness continued: “The car came onto the grass and struck us. I was thrown into the ditch. When I got up, I saw a car stopped up the road and went up to it. I saw a man lying on the road.” Witness now knew that the man was Joseph Cullen. Dr. Daly was kneeling beside him and there was a bicycle lying on the road. He asked Dr. Daly where James Kinsella was, and he said he did not know. Witness added that Dr. Daly staggered back to his car.
In Hospital for week
In reply to Mr. Bell, S.C. defending, witness said he walked on the grass margin all the time and Kinsella walked at the edge of the road. Witness was in hospital for a week. Witness knew nothing about a mug being found on the road, nor about a half-bottle of stout being found in Dr. Daly’s car. Witness had not put it there. He had not taken drink with him from the public house. Kinsella had drunk three half-pints of beer. Witness denied that he said to Dr. Daly after the accident:” What are you going to do about me, you knocked me down,” and that Dr. Daly had said “Go away and stop a car.”
Thomas Cullimore, Wexford stated that he stopped his car at the scene of the accident. Dr. Daly appeared to be very shocked, he said to the Witness “get the other car, it dazzled me”.
Mrs. Kinsella, widow of James Kinsella identified a broken mug as one her husband had on the night in question.
Doctor’s evidence: Dr. John Fennelly said he was driving from Wexford to Enniscorthy and reached the scene of the accident about 11.30 pm.
He examined the two men who were dead. He was examining a third man, Matthew Kelly, who was in a car, when Dr. Daly said, “if you have any doubt send him to hospital.”
In reply to Mr. Bell, witness said that earlier that night he had been in the company of Dr. Daly and Mr. Hayes in the Talbot Hotel, Wexford.
Mr. Bell- Did he show any signs of intoxication? I would say he had a few taken.
Was he intoxicated? – He was in good form; I would not say he was drunk.
At the scene of the accident what was his condition? I thought he was perfectly alright.
Were you satisfied he could drive a car? Yes
Witness said he had one drink with Dr. Daly at about 10.50.pm.
Mr Justice Henchy- he was then in good form? -Yes
GARDA’S Opinion
Garda M.J. Keevans, Oylegate stated that he arrived at the scene of the accident at 11.50pm
He asked Dr. Daly what had happened, and he replied: “What about the other car; are you going to make an effort to get that car?” when witness asked” what car?” Dr. Daly replied, “You are getting no Statement from me”.
Dr. Daly’s voice was thick and slightly incoherent, and it was with an effort that he spoke. He appeared to take no interest in what was going on around him. Witness was of opinion that he was drunk and incapable of driving. The two left wheels of Dr. Daly’s car were in the ditch. Witness found a half-pint stout bottle, one-third full, in Dr. Daly’s car. It had no cork. When Dr. Daly left the scene, he walked with a noticeable stagger. Witness found a broken mug in a bag under the body of James Kinsella.
Police broadcast
In reply to Mr. Peter Maguire, who is with Mr. Bell, witness said a police notice was broadcast about another car. He did not come to a hasty conclusion about Dr. Daly’s condition. He decided after observing him for five minutes, that he was suffering from the effects of in intoxicating liquor. Witness would not know if Dr. Daly was suffering from shock. He found the stout bottle under the front passenger seat Mr. Daly’s car. Replying to Mr. Wellwood, S.C., who with Mr. Sean Breathnach (instructed by Mr. W. Conway, assistant State solicitor), is prosecuting witness said it was as a result of the broadcast that Mrs. Dorothy page came forward to give information.
Garda G. F. Moran, Oylegate, stated that he was also of opinion that Dr. Daly was drunk and incapable of driving a car. When Dr. Daly got into his car to switch off his lights, he fell over on the passenger seat. Dr. Daly staggered, and when witness went to hold him, he pulled away.
At the Garda station, when asked if he wished to make a statement, Dr. Daly said, “You will get no statement from me.” He said he wanted to telephone a solicitor.
Evening herald 2nd March-1962 evidence of the doctor continues.
Dr. Patrick J. Daly-ownership and registration
(57) Bree House, Enniscorthy, who faces a double charge arising out of a motoring fatality near Oylegate, Co. Wexford, on April 24 Continued his direct evidence in his defence in the central Criminal Court today.
He has pleaded not guilty to the manslaughter of James Kinsella (72) Fisherman, and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of Oylegate; withdriving while drunk, and with dangerous driving. When the prosecution case closed yesterday Mr. justice Henchy refused an application for a direction on all counts and Dr. Daly in his opening evidence told his Counsel Mr Bell S.C. that the night of the accident “was so filthy you could hardly drive.” The accused in further evidence said that when he arrived at the Garda station after the accident, he said to the sergeant that “he had trouble up the road and wanted to get his solicitor.” He told him he would not make a statement until he had seen his solicitor. He did not say “you will not get a statement from me”.
Phoned
Witness phoned his solicitor. Mr. Mc Evoy, who told him not to make a statement until he arrived.
Mr. Bell-Up to that time that the Superintendent arrived on the scene had any suggestion been made to you that you were drunk? None whatsoever. Drink was never mentioned. What was the first inclination you got that there was any suggestion you were under the influence of drink? – When the Superintendent came along and asked me if I would like as doctor to examine me. It just clicked with me then what the idea was If the suggestion had been made before that you were under the influence of drink would you have looked for a doctor yourself? -I would right away
Stout found- Mr. Bell Evidence has been given that a bottle of stout was found in your car. Was that yours? Definitely no.
When Mr. Wellwood S.C., prosecuting, was cross examining he asked Dr. Daly about
A jury in the central Criminal Court yesterday, found Dr. Patrick Daly (57) of Bree House, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, guilty of driving without due consideration for other users of road. He was fined £10 and discharged. Dr. Daly was found not guilty of the manslaughter to manslaughter of James Kinsella (72), fisherman, and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of Oylegate by striking them with his motor vehicle
On the night of April 24 last at Oylegate
Verdict Today expected in doctor’s trial today 6-March-62 The Irish Press
Defence Witnesses
Today a verdict expected in the trial at the Central Criminal Court, of Dr. Patrick J. Daly (58), of Bree House, Enniscorthy, who is charged with the manslaughter of James Kinsella (72), fisherman and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of Oylegate, Co. Wexford, by striking them with his car on the night of April 24 last. He is also charged with driving while drunk and dangerous driving. At the conclusion of the evidence yesterday, Mr. D. Bell, S.C., defending, addressed the jury and was followed by Mr. S. Breathnach, prosecuting.
Mr. Justice Henchy said he would charge the jury this morning.
Earlier witnesses for the defence said they noticed nothing wrong with the doctor that night. James Kavanagh said he saw the doctor in the bar of the Talbot Hotel that night. The doctor. The doctor had one drink and drove off afterwards quite normally. Later that night, said Mr. Kavanagh, he was driving his own car and came on the scene of the accident. He went for a priest and afterwards drove Dr. Daly with two gardai to Oylegate Garda Station. The doctor seemed very depressed and did not talk much but showed no signs of drink.
James Walsh a member of the Wexford Co. GA.A. selection committee, said he was at the match that evening with Dr. Daly, who showed no signs whatsoever of having drink taken. At the committee later there was also no sign that he had drink on him. He disagreed with Mr. Walsh the barman, who said Dr. Daly left the bar at 9.30. The meeting finished a minute or so before 10 pm. He was very definite that was the time.
Patrick Boggan, Walshestown, killinck, Co. Wexford, another member of the committee also said Dr. Daly was perfectly normal at the match. He came into the meeting about 9.20, answered some questions about the fitness of players and took part in a discussion about transport of players to Dublin. said Dr. Daly consulted a notebook and said he would not be able to travel with the players that weekend as he had an important appointment. said Dr. Daly was the same as at any other meeting and at no time gave the appearance of being under the influence of drink. The meeting ended about 10pm.or five minutes before that, and Dr. Daly left just in front of him. The meeting had been on about five or six minutes before Dr. Daly arrived.
Gerard Newe, Enniscorthy, said the match ended about 8.45 pm. Dr. Daly was about ten minutes in the Talbot Hotel bar and had one drink. He did not notice anything abnormal about him and he did not seem to have any drink taken. Later he saw Dr. Daly walking straight over to his car and driving away in front of him normally.
7-March-1962 A jury in the central Criminal Court yesterday, found Dr. Patrick Daly (57) of Bree House, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, guilty of driving without due consideration for other users of road. He was fined £10 and discharged. Dr. Daly was found not guilty of the manslaughter of James Kinsella (72), fisherman, and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of the central Criminal Court yesterday, found Dr. Patrick Daly (57) of Bree House, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, guilty of driving without due consideration for other users of road. He was fined £10 and discharged. Dr. Daly was found not guilty of the manslaughter to manslaughter of James Kinsella (72), fisherman, and Joseph Cullen (45), farm worker, both of Oylegate.
John told me a man or probably more likely the priest said an “Act of contrition”. Into the deceased’s ear, I often remember hearing about this when I was in primary school in the 1960’s, 1970. I often remember hearing this back then that an “Act of contrition could be said into the deceased’s ear if they hadn’t time to say it before they died. I suppose this could be controversial.
Mr James Peart made a massive Blunder in court early 2009, and Caroline spotted it, in the newspaper and brought it with me into Mr David Tarrant, who was trying to cover up for the mistake, by saying it is a bit like the doctor shouldn’t have to ask the surgeon is his scalpel Sharp enough? Before starting the operation, That Peart should have known better not to say what he did and not do something so stupid.
the fact that I was making a lot of mistakes trying to remember prices of oil etc. when making comparisons. I had to keep writing things down, after I realised that had made a mistake with a date of an appointment in a hospital, and that really alerted me. I had to collect all the newspaper adverts, and I was very fortunate around 2008 to 2010 that the Gorey Guardian newspaper office in Gorey had kept all the 2004 and 2005 copies of the paper, and they loaned them to me to get pages that I wanted photocopies of. While I was trying to piece everything together slowly, I realised at one stage in 2009 to 2010 that I could not have been in two places at one time, and that after I carried out some more checks on Court List dates in 2011.
During November and December 2011, I had mentioned to David Tarrant an obvious flaw, that was stated by a trained Garda, which he appeared to have made by assumption, without checking out something obvious that a fourteen-year-old could have probably spotted, but after thinking about it again over the years, I think it may be safer to say a reasonably bright sixteen-year-old plus, could have spotted the obvious flaw
and I could see there was no date or notification for this date in March. Jnr barrister Sinead Gleeson and Snr Barrister Philip Sheehan, Tarrant, and barrister James Peart, and State solicitor Kevin O’Doherty, I enquired from a solicitor can they bring up a case without notification or setting a date, and he informed me : “they can’t do that”, I then checked with a different solicitor whom I was dealing with on separate business , and his advice was the same, that they can’t do what they did.
The fact that I was making a lot of mistakes trying to remember prices of oil etc. when making comparisons. I had to keep writing things down, I realised that had made a mistake with a date of an appointment in a hospital, and that really alerted me. I had to collect all the newspaper adverts, and I was very fortunate around 2008 to 2010 that the Gorey Guardian newspaper office in Gorey had kept all the 2004 and 2005 copies of the paper, and they loaned them to me to get pages that I wanted photocopies of. While I was trying to piece everything together slowly, I realised at one stage in 2009 to 2010 that I could not have been in two places at one time, and that after I carried out some more checks on Court List dates in 2011 and 2012, I could see there was no date or notification for this date in March. I Jnr barrister Sinead Gleeson could often be there, but this could have been when she was doing defence cases, and Snr Barrister Philip Sheehan for the State at the time would always have been there , Tarrant, would always send down an apprentice solicitor Ms Thomasina O’Connell, and Mr Ian Bracken with instructions from him, and one occasion just, used Ed. King and barrister James Peart, and State solicitor Kevin O’Doherty would always have been there, I enquired from a solicitor can they bring up a case without notification or setting a date, and he informed me they can’t do that, I then checked with a different solicitor whom I was dealing with on separate business , and his advice was the same, that they can’t do what they did. During a discussion with Lourda after David had given her a message for me, we were discussing Ms Sinead Gleeson , who had taken over from Mr Philip Sheehan acting for the State , and I had noticed she was doing both Prosecution and Defence cases around the time period , and Lourda assumed maybe it was a different County , but after rechecking I noticed they were both in County Wexford, which surprised us. and barrister James Peart, and State solicitor Kevin O’Doherty, I enquired from a solicitor can they bring up a case without notification or setting a date, and he informed me they can’t do that, I then checked with a different solicitor whom I was dealing with on separate business , and his advice was the same, that they can’t do what they did. I could see from fairly early on that Tarrant as well others really knew well how to benefit from the Legal Aid system, and as a Tax Payer paying my fair share of a substantially large amount of taxes
Around 2015 the Late Nick Stafford was on “Southeast Radio” one Saturday morning on the “I Remember” Saturday morning show with Michael Doyle who usually has a different guest each week which lasts for half an hour. This caught quite a few people’s attention. A local man who is a farmer and does some contracting with his son a few miles away mentioned it to me in our local village, another person mentioned it to me a day later and that he was also going to be on the show the following Saturday morning again, so I tuned in the following Saturday morning, and listened carefully, especially due to the fact it was called “I Remember”, and I noticed he had no memory of any incident during 2007.
On the subject of tractors Ms Deborah Coleman wrote a nice piece in the Gorey Guardian newspaper January 2018 about the passing of former Garda superintendent Peter Finn (66) of Knockgreaney, Coolgreany, and both Caroline and I know his son Declan very well, who is a very likable and hard-working guy, but Ms Coleman’s piece had me really puzzled when she wrote: It was in “Smith’s Garage in Coolgreany”, where the patrol car was fueled, that Peter met his wife to be Alice. They married when he was 23 and settled in Coolgreany to raise their three sons. (I knew Alice well from the time she used to call around to collect the Census Forms, and she had a very pleasant personality, and she was quite helpful.
I was on the job with the Late Johnny Mc Carthy and I can’t remember who was on the excavator and it was most likely in the late 1970’S when we were installing the new tank for the petrol pumps just outside Farm Services for the late Ted Halnon, and it may have been that time it from across the road from the Topshop Bar or Gardiners pub or Lounge as it may have been known or called at the time. After enquiring I could see she had made a mistake, and then when I thought about it, it had to have been Smith’s garage in Arklow which was up from the main street on the Wexford Road, Arklow. It would have been here where my first cousin and his father Joe bought the six-cylinder URSUS tractor 120 Hp, and my father bought a two-wheel drive six-cylinder URSUS tractor, two-wheel drive, I think for my very brother at the time and traded it in shortly after for the 4-wheel drive version. My cousin remembered Mr Denis Finn was the salesman at the time, and there was a photo in the Wicklow people of Denis Finn selling one to a customer. Smiths had the Agency for Renault cars that time also We had bought a Zetor six-cylinder sometime after this from Cartons, in Camolin with quite a story, which was supposed to have been a new tractor. both the URSUS and ZETOR six -cylinder tractors were identical, the URSUS was made in Poland, and the ZETOR in Czechoslovakia.
In the Tori Towey Case, I had wondered at first how ex-husband of Tori Towey could avoid prosecution it she Tori Towey the injured party was prosecuted. But then I noticed in the Irish Independent Thursday 8th of August 2024 the ex-husband , 23 year old Emmerich Basson from South Africa has his passports withheld and he is prevented from leaving Dubai. Fortunately, Ms. Towey had the good sense to take photos of the really serious bruises she had suffered and injury from where he jammed her arm in the bathroom door, was obvious.
Thankfully all the charges have been dropped against her.
I had noticed an extraordinary case involving a French woman Touria Tiouli from Limoges in France a little over twenty years ago was prosecuted for having sexual relations after being raped in Dubai on the evening, and the police were very slow to believe her before her birthday, fortunately she had been working through the French Consulate. One could see from the interview she did with Thierry Adisson it was quite complicated in Dubai.
Thierry Ardisson a well-known French TV Presenter interviewed Ms. Touria Tiouli from Limoges in France March 2004 or earlier from Le Monde En Parle | France 2 | 27/03/2004
Thierry Ardisson reçoit Touria Tiouli, qui raconte son histoire : “en prison à Dubaï pour avoir été violé”.
Elle évoque d’abord sa rencontre avec une princesse saoudienne, son grave accident de voiture et la découverte de sa maladie auto-immune.
She first talks about her meeting with a Saudi princess, her serious car accident and the discovery of her autoimmune disease
Then Touria left to work at the French Consulate in Dubai. She recounts the rape she suffered, organized by 3 Emiratis. But when she filed a complaint, she explained that she was arrested for “sexual relations outside of marriage” and spent months in prison. France tries to cover up the story and does not help in Limoges in France who wrote and released a book with the title “Brise en Prison” “Broken in prison à Dubai for being raped, which had been considered as sexual relations outside marriage illegal under Sharia Law, in
Dubai. Thierry remarked you already have a story that
is not simple you were born in Casablanca
you were raised by your mother divorced who was a nurse a for 13 years. you come to France; you were 19
years old and one day when you are walking down
Champs Elysées and there is a Saudi princess who asks you to help
translate what she is doing, to buy I imagine, and you help
you become friends and she asks you to come to her home and visit and discover her country and you fall in love with her brother, from what I can gather from it , she was Muslim and had Moroccan nationality as well as French Citizenship , which would have made it easier for her to marry a prince that was Muslim, but then in 2000 they were involved in a serious car accident and spends six months in hospital, and it took two years for her to walk again, at first the doctors said she would not walk again without the aid of crutches or a stick, and she said some of the doctors were amazed when she did get walking again and it was a miracle even for the doctors to see. Thierry remarks your fiancée the prince dies aged 32 years old. before the wedding he came back from the
United States, he had his diploma in, he was appointed to the Ministry
of foreign affairs in Riad he had put on a lot of weight and was advised to lose some. Turia told Thierry she had lost weight easily ,and I am not sure if this was as a result of the car accident
that’s where
you finish your studies to be a dental technician
you meet another man a new man, and you keep the memories of your first husband
always he is the one and only when
your child is born with this new man
and you wanted to give the name you wanted to
give the child,(it is a little confusing here, as she had a son 14 years old in 2002 , from what I can make out.) you kept your promise with the Saudi prince and after a while separated from this new man and separate yourself from this man
the vagaries of life there you dream of a
paradise and you think about that moment
that Dubai can be this paradise.
But before leaving for Dubai a twist of fait misfortune persists, you discover you have a disease known in French as maladie Orpheline 10 , a rare disease, a neuromuscular, an autoimmune disease. A condition that
is called myositis 1 it is a neuromuscular disease that affects the
muscles and it evolves, and at the time of the interview
for that moment she was okay
but here we are and finally, you must
take your service in Dubai due to you
work on economic expansion through the
French consulate, so everything is fine there
at the beginning impeccable and you like it
it is a modern country etc since. actually, the day before your birthday 39 years old, you are raped by three Emirates 14-October-2002
modern yeah, so I visited the
United States is since modern
there is this mixture of cultures Eastern and Western
was looking for because we are looking for each other
automatically I do not forget that I
I’m of Arab origin so
automatically look for its origins
the country we grew up so there is a culture
Eastern and Western culture and I
find them here and there, ( it is a little confusing at this point, as she appears to be referring to Dubai in the Ununited Emirates)
actually, the day before your
39th birthday you are raped by three
Emirates , you call it in
Your book “a night of Hell”
She spoke to Thierry about going to the night club . She knew the manager there and there were some there at the bar wearing shorts and Tank tops smoking. She had been to this night club a few times, she spoke about the incident where the three young lads in their twenties insulted her and accused her of being a Moroccan prostitute, and the manager quickly explained to them that she was a French citizen through the French Consulate, and one of them apologised , she accepted the apology saying it is human to make a mistake and they offered to give her a lift to her hotel, which she accepted but unfortunately, they had planned to take her and rape her . She reported the rape to the police the next day she reported it to the police, and that is where the trouble began. young men denied it and said it was consensual. She was in shock after the police arrested her and confiscated her passport and accused her of having sexual relations , which was against Sharia law The Guardian newspaper reported : 3-Jan 2003 “The French foreign ministry confirmed yesterday that Touria Tiouli, a Moroccan-born marketing executive who grew up in Limoges and holds full French nationality, had been freed from prison on bail paid by the French consulate but was due to face trial within the next few weeks.” She was held for five days and under house arrest at her hotel. She had been released sometime after and she mentioned that she had the offer of having her hotel expenses being paid if she did not release her book, which she declined. I came across this case after reading about the “Tori Towey Case” where the Injured party gets arrested, prosecuted and put in jail. It was fortunate Ms. Towey had the good sense to take photographs of herself from where she had been beaten purple, black and blue with bruises. Without this evidence I imagine it would have been more difficult, when the police were slow to believe her, before it became public.
The Law Society Gazette Reported 3-August 2022 former High Court President quits Dubai role
The former President of the High Court Mr Justice Peter Kelly has resigned as a judge of the Dubai International Financial Centre Courts (DIFC).
His decision comes after the former chief justice Frank Clarke resigned from the court over the weekend.
The two had been among four new judges appointed to the DIFC by Dubai ruler and president of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum at a virtual swearing-in ceremony last week.
The financial centre has been given the power under UAE law to create its own legal and regulatory framework to deal with any claims or disputes arising within the centre.
Controversy
Mr Justice Kelly told The Irish Times: “I have decided to resign from the Court of Appeal of the DIFC since, as a private citizen, I do not want this controversy to disrupt my future time in retirement.”
On Saturday, Mr Justice Clarke had said that he was concerned that the controversy over his appointment could have an impact on the work of the Law Reform Commission (LRC), of which he was appointed president last month.
The appointment of the two judges had attracted some political criticism, with Labour Party leader Ivana Bacik expressing particular concern about the former chief justice’s appointment to the DIFC while also being president of the LRC.
Bacik said that the two judges had made “appropriate and sensible” decisions to resign.
I know there had been a serious issue with two Australian businessmen Matt Joyce Marcus Lee and Matt Jones stuck in Dubai under house arrest for three years so far, with a pending judgement and sentencing this in Dubai after being found innocent in an Australian Court after a company called Sunland had misled the court